What's the meaning of the Gondola scene in RH1?

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#1 by monpanache
2017-11-09 at 21:19
Title. I hear it's fairly important for the overall comprehension of the story and everything, but I can't really link it to the rest.

Moreover: is there a way to somehow extract the entire script of this game so that I can ctrl + f on it?Last modified on 2017-11-09 at 21:26
#2 by infernoplex
2017-11-10 at 22:17
You can read a little bit about the gondola scene here. Read only if you completed the entire SubaHibi.

As for the scripts themselves, yeah, BGI engine has tools for extraction that you can find on the net. I think you may be able to extract them with GARBro (I used it for sprites extraction).
#3 by monpanache
2017-11-11 at 13:56
Thank you.
#4 by czxcjx
2017-11-14 at 12:30
That link only deals with the gondola ride based on some kind of surface level speculative theory - but doesn't really touch on the thematic importance of the scene. The whole ride pretty much reflects the fearful attitude towards a stale daily life, ending in death, and parallels with the fear of death that drives the whole Takuji cult in the first place.Last modified on 2017-11-14 at 12:30
#5 by monpanache
2017-11-25 at 23:17
I read that link, and indeed I think it misses the whole point. Or rather, the whole "sci-fi" interpretation is misplaced. End Sky 2, andRabbit Hole 1 (and the Gondola scene) are not meant to be logically coerent with the rest of the visual novel. They are blatantly nonsensical from the narrative point of view.

They somehow add thematic importance though.

I think what #4 says about the Gondola scene is true. It fits really well with the whole fear of death thing. After all, Subahibi wants to tell you how living a normal life is not that bad a thing.
#6 by czxcjx
2017-11-30 at 04:05

Probably related to Wittgenstein's views, because although those 2 chapters don't link up logically, DH1 gives Zakuro closure. The meaning comes from 'outside' the logic of the text, which is linked to Wittgenstein's mystical quietism. TnS2 basically admits that the whole thing is a fiction, and places the reader as what is beyond the limits of the sky, there to make his or her own meaning from the events witnessed.


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